Here are the MDLs for The Clan of the Caveman (AKA The Caveman Clan)... contained in the CaveMan.zip file are the following.... Player.mdl - Player BMP of Captain Caveman Character H_player.mdl - Player Head BMP Gib2.mdl - Gib Mid section of Caveman Character also Caveman.gif - small version of the Caveman Logo I tested them using Mdled 1.5 and created MDLs with them, so they should be fine. You need to unpack your Quake Reg Pak file with an unpacker and put these in your id1/progs directory. Please back up the originals before coping these there. I created this for the new Clan I'm putting together, The Clan of the CaveMan, and hopefully it will be included in a new Clan Multiskin Version. If your interested in joining please get back to me. You can reach me at Curemode@aol.com Website:http://members.aol.com/curemode/ Quake section is quake.htm Hope you like it, Chris Feehan