From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Tue Jun 1 15:55:25 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:55:25 +1000 (EST) Subject: Free to a good home... (fwd) Message-ID: <199906010555.PAA07705@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> All, Just a message to say that the PUPS mailing list DOES exist :-) It's just very quiet, so please feel free to wake it up. I should send in a list of new things in the PUPS Archive. We now have: 152 people subscribed to the mailing list 100 people with access to the PUPS archive 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders. Finally, John Dodson in Australia (who is not on the list), asked me to forward this message to you all. Cheers, Warren ----- Forwarded message from John Dodson ----- From: John Dodson Subject: Free to a good home... Free to a good home... Complete set of RSX11-M manuals. (Yes it ran on a PDP11 ;-) Complete set of Ultrix manuals. (Oh Ok so it ran on Vaxes ;-) One or 2 PDP-11/23's + some i/o cards (I'm not making a list, YOU must look, decide & negotiate with me to let them go...) A volunteer prepared to make a list would be OK. Contact: John Dodson, Dept of Physiology, (F13) johnd at physiol.usyd.edu.au & Faculty of Medicine, http://www.physiol.usyd.edu.au/johnd University of Sydney, Phone +61 2 9351 3277 NSW 2006 Fax +61 2 9351 2058 Australia. Bring a strong friend when you pick it up. You have a week before the docs are trashed. The machines & cards I'll keep for a while till they find a good home. Sorry I cannot (will not) deliver. ----- End of forwarded message from John Dodson ----- Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA26777 for pups-liszt; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:13:38 +1000 (EST) From wim at usn.nl Tue Jun 1 16:59:52 1999 From: wim at usn.nl (Wim Fournier) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:59:52 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <199906010659.IAA30249@superluminal.usn.nl> Well as the list does live (a bit) let me introduce myself, maybe I can get out some discussion. My name is Wim Fournier (for known people and friends (not that I have any) it's Wimpie). I'm a student of 19 years old and currently doing Technical Informatics... That is something like system engineer with much knowledge. I'm higly interrested in electronics; High Frequency radio; computers; computer hardware; Old stuf (audio/compu/etc);unix/Linux I own a PDP11/94 with modem-lines / dr11c / tu80 / etc I have not got it working yet (hacking!!!) It's from the dutch telecom company KPN who has used it for semaphone (beepers and stuff) It came with a 19" rack (all black + heavy) and a switch box for American plugs. When I put the box and the PDP on power and switch on the switch and set it to local on or power on, only the switch goes on... the PDP does not react.. I have got one suspect: the wire between the switch and the PDP (3-wire in the back)... it was broken and I re-wire it 1 on 1 but do not know if this is OK. Further more I haven't got a disk yet. I'm searching for an old apple disk (scsi-1) as someone told me it should work. If someone has got an answer to my frustrating problems.. I'm listening.. 8*} Well... that will be the end of this shout for help plus introduction.. Greetings, Wim Fournier Unix Support Netherlands (practice training company for my study) PS: sorry for the bad English if any.. My keyboard doesn't type English that good... 8*)) Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA27048 for pups-liszt; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:21:15 +1000 (EST) From wim at usn.nl Tue Jun 1 19:07:16 1999 From: wim at usn.nl (Wim Fournier) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:07:16 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: from "Alan F R Bain" at Jun 1, 99 09:44:09 am Message-ID: <199906010907.LAA00196@superluminal.usn.nl> > > Wim Fournier wrote: > >Well as the list does live (a bit) let me introduce myself, maybe I can get > >out some discussion. > > > >I own a PDP11/94 with modem-lines / dr11c / tu80 / etc > >When I put the box and the PDP on power and switch on the switch and set it to > >local on or power on, only the switch goes on... the PDP does not react.. I > >have got one suspect: the wire between the switch and the PDP (3-wire in the > >back)... it was broken and I re-wire it 1 on 1 but do not know if this is OK. > > Why not try powering up the PDP independantly of the power controller? > You can make an american socket -> dutch plug lead, or just swap the plug. > There's also most probably a circuit breaker on the back of the PDP. > Check that this hasn't tripped (or been damaged in transit!). That's a good one.. I saw the breaker.. it's holding the floor of the pdp.. But what I'm wordering is what the power consumption is (at 220V) in ampere, because I will be feeding it from an normal home-socket (line/null/mass) at +/- 230Volt 10 Ampere. > > The H??? power controller is just a box with a big relay for switching > everything on at once. There came with it two little short ciruit > plugs for testing (there is a power on line and and power off due to > overheating line). I you do need a new three wire power controller > cable, I have a box of hundreds of them, email me and I'm sure I can > send you one. Well.. I didn't get the test plugs.. but that's OK.. I'll nuke them myself 8*) And as of the power controller cables.. How much does it cost to send from your house (where do you live anyway?) to The Netherlands (I live near Utrecht (about the center of NL)) > > >Further more I haven't got a disk yet. I'm searching for an old apple disk > >(scsi-1) as someone told me it should work. > > This depends upon the controller cards installed in the PDP. > I'll send you a list tommorow.. > Alan > Thanks Wim Fournier Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA27545 for pups-liszt; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:02:12 +1000 (EST) From djenner at halcyon.com Tue Jun 1 22:47:30 1999 From: djenner at halcyon.com (David C. Jenner) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 05:47:30 -0700 Subject: Free to a good home... (fwd) References: <199906010555.PAA07705@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Message-ID: <3753D662.9913E45C@halcyon.com> 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders! (Or is it 152?) Wow, that's $150,000 to SCO for supporting the effort. That should probably be enough to pay all the lawyers, etc. (Even if it's only $15,000.) I hope Warren got a cut, too. :) Dave Warren Toomey wrote: > > All, > Just a message to say that the PUPS mailing list DOES exist :-) > It's just very quiet, so please feel free to wake it up. I should > send in a list of new things in the PUPS Archive. > > We now have: > 152 people subscribed to the mailing list > 100 people with access to the PUPS archive > 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders. > > Finally, John Dodson in Australia (who is not on the list), asked > me to forward this message to you all. > > Cheers, > Warren > > ----- Forwarded message from John Dodson ----- > From: John Dodson > Subject: Free to a good home... > > Free to a good home... > > Complete set of RSX11-M manuals. (Yes it ran on a PDP11 ;-) > > Complete set of Ultrix manuals. (Oh Ok so it ran on Vaxes ;-) > > One or 2 PDP-11/23's + some i/o cards (I'm not making a list, YOU must > look, decide & negotiate with me to let them go...) > A volunteer prepared to make a list would be OK. > > Contact: > > John Dodson, Dept of Physiology, (F13) > johnd at physiol.usyd.edu.au & Faculty of Medicine, > http://www.physiol.usyd.edu.au/johnd University of Sydney, > Phone +61 2 9351 3277 NSW 2006 > Fax +61 2 9351 2058 Australia. > > Bring a strong friend when you pick it up. You have a week before the docs are > trashed. The machines & cards I'll keep for a while till they find a good home. > Sorry I cannot (will not) deliver. > ----- End of forwarded message from John Dodson ----- From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Wed Jun 2 09:49:17 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:49:17 +1000 (EST) Subject: Free to a good home... (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3753D662.9913E45C@halcyon.com> from "David C. Jenner" at "Jun 1, 1999 5:47:30 am" Message-ID: <199906012353.JAA00289@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by David C. Jenner: > 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders! (Or is it 152?) Whups, typo :-) > Wow, that's $150,000 to SCO for supporting the effort. > That should probably be enough to pay all the lawyers, etc. > (Even if it's only $15,000.) I hope Warren got a cut, too. :) No, no cut for me, just happiness that people can use the archive. We're currently just back up from a campus-wide power failure. I knew it was coming. Every time minnie get over 100 days uptime, we have a power failure. Cheers all, Warren From ecorlis at mindspring.com Sat Jun 19 14:49:08 1999 From: ecorlis at mindspring.com (Erin Corliss) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:49:08 -0700 Subject: Unix 6 & the E11 Emulator Message-ID: <000e01beba0f$12646e00$e22079a5@moonunit.mindstream.com> How do you boot Unix 6 on an Ersatz-11 emulator? Here is the e11.ini I have: set cpu 40 mount dm0: ..\rk6.dsk assign tt1: f2 assign tt2: f3 boot dm0: The emulator currently displays the copyright, followed by a new line and an "@" symbol. At this point if you type "rkunix" or "unix" it has an exception... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Sat Jun 19 20:11:18 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 20:11:18 +1000 (EST) Subject: Unix 6 & the E11 Emulator In-Reply-To: <000e01beba0f$12646e00$e22079a5@moonunit.mindstream.com> from Erin Corliss at "Jun 18, 1999 9:49: 8 pm" Message-ID: <199906191011.UAA75443@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Erin Corliss: > How do you boot Unix 6 on an Ersatz-11 emulator? > > Here is the e11.ini I have: > > set cpu 40 > mount dm0: ..\rk6.dsk > assign tt1: f2 > assign tt2: f3 > boot dm0: > > The emulator currently displays the copyright, followed by a new line and an "@" symbol. At this point if you type "rkunix" or "unix" it has an exception... For Supnik's emulator, you can do this: UNIX V6 is contained on three RK05 disk images. To boot UNIX: sim> set cpu 18b sim> att rk0 unix0_v6_rk.dsk sim> att rk1 unix1_v6_rk.dsk sim> att rk3 unix3_v6_rk.dsk sim> boot rk0 @unix login: root # ls -l However, you want the same details for Ersatz-11. I thought RK0: was the E11 device for RK05s. Or DK0? In which case you would use this device to mount the RK05 disk image. Everything else in your e11.ini file looks good to me. Unfortunately, I haven't used E11 for a while, I'm at home, and any archive e11.ini files are at work on CD-ROMs. I'll have a look when I get back to work on Monday. Hope this helps, Warren From agonza24 at cs.fiu.edu Sat Jun 26 11:34:40 1999 From: agonza24 at cs.fiu.edu (alejandro gonzalez) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Unix 6 & the E11 Emulator In-Reply-To: <000e01beba0f$12646e00$e22079a5@moonunit.mindstream.com> Message-ID: Did you ever get this to work? Because I was trying it with the E11 Emulator and it gave me an address dump when I type: "unix" in the @ prompt. ********************************* Alejandro Gonzalez HPDRC Research Assistant NASA Regional Application Center agonza24 at cs.fiu.edu ********************************* On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Erin Corliss wrote: > How do you boot Unix 6 on an Ersatz-11 emulator? > > Here is the e11.ini I have: > > set cpu 40 > mount dm0: ..\rk6.dsk > assign tt1: f2 > assign tt2: f3 > boot dm0: > > The emulator currently displays the copyright, followed by a new line and an "@" symbol. At this point if you type "rkunix" or "unix" it has an exception... > From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Tue Jun 1 15:55:25 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:55:25 +1000 (EST) Subject: Free to a good home... (fwd) Message-ID: <199906010555.PAA07705@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> All, Just a message to say that the PUPS mailing list DOES exist :-) It's just very quiet, so please feel free to wake it up. I should send in a list of new things in the PUPS Archive. We now have: 152 people subscribed to the mailing list 100 people with access to the PUPS archive 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders. Finally, John Dodson in Australia (who is not on the list), asked me to forward this message to you all. Cheers, Warren ----- Forwarded message from John Dodson ----- From: John Dodson Subject: Free to a good home... Free to a good home... Complete set of RSX11-M manuals. (Yes it ran on a PDP11 ;-) Complete set of Ultrix manuals. (Oh Ok so it ran on Vaxes ;-) One or 2 PDP-11/23's + some i/o cards (I'm not making a list, YOU must look, decide & negotiate with me to let them go...) A volunteer prepared to make a list would be OK. Contact: John Dodson, Dept of Physiology, (F13) johnd at physiol.usyd.edu.au & Faculty of Medicine, http://www.physiol.usyd.edu.au/johnd University of Sydney, Phone +61 2 9351 3277 NSW 2006 Fax +61 2 9351 2058 Australia. Bring a strong friend when you pick it up. You have a week before the docs are trashed. The machines & cards I'll keep for a while till they find a good home. Sorry I cannot (will not) deliver. ----- End of forwarded message from John Dodson ----- Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA26777 for pups-liszt; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:13:38 +1000 (EST) From wim at usn.nl Tue Jun 1 16:59:52 1999 From: wim at usn.nl (Wim Fournier) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:59:52 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <199906010659.IAA30249@superluminal.usn.nl> Well as the list does live (a bit) let me introduce myself, maybe I can get out some discussion. My name is Wim Fournier (for known people and friends (not that I have any) it's Wimpie). I'm a student of 19 years old and currently doing Technical Informatics... That is something like system engineer with much knowledge. I'm higly interrested in electronics; High Frequency radio; computers; computer hardware; Old stuf (audio/compu/etc);unix/Linux I own a PDP11/94 with modem-lines / dr11c / tu80 / etc I have not got it working yet (hacking!!!) It's from the dutch telecom company KPN who has used it for semaphone (beepers and stuff) It came with a 19" rack (all black + heavy) and a switch box for American plugs. When I put the box and the PDP on power and switch on the switch and set it to local on or power on, only the switch goes on... the PDP does not react.. I have got one suspect: the wire between the switch and the PDP (3-wire in the back)... it was broken and I re-wire it 1 on 1 but do not know if this is OK. Further more I haven't got a disk yet. I'm searching for an old apple disk (scsi-1) as someone told me it should work. If someone has got an answer to my frustrating problems.. I'm listening.. 8*} Well... that will be the end of this shout for help plus introduction.. Greetings, Wim Fournier Unix Support Netherlands (practice training company for my study) PS: sorry for the bad English if any.. My keyboard doesn't type English that good... 8*)) Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA27048 for pups-liszt; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:21:15 +1000 (EST) From wim at usn.nl Tue Jun 1 19:07:16 1999 From: wim at usn.nl (Wim Fournier) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:07:16 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: from "Alan F R Bain" at Jun 1, 99 09:44:09 am Message-ID: <199906010907.LAA00196@superluminal.usn.nl> > > Wim Fournier wrote: > >Well as the list does live (a bit) let me introduce myself, maybe I can get > >out some discussion. > > > >I own a PDP11/94 with modem-lines / dr11c / tu80 / etc > >When I put the box and the PDP on power and switch on the switch and set it to > >local on or power on, only the switch goes on... the PDP does not react.. I > >have got one suspect: the wire between the switch and the PDP (3-wire in the > >back)... it was broken and I re-wire it 1 on 1 but do not know if this is OK. > > Why not try powering up the PDP independantly of the power controller? > You can make an american socket -> dutch plug lead, or just swap the plug. > There's also most probably a circuit breaker on the back of the PDP. > Check that this hasn't tripped (or been damaged in transit!). That's a good one.. I saw the breaker.. it's holding the floor of the pdp.. But what I'm wordering is what the power consumption is (at 220V) in ampere, because I will be feeding it from an normal home-socket (line/null/mass) at +/- 230Volt 10 Ampere. > > The H??? power controller is just a box with a big relay for switching > everything on at once. There came with it two little short ciruit > plugs for testing (there is a power on line and and power off due to > overheating line). I you do need a new three wire power controller > cable, I have a box of hundreds of them, email me and I'm sure I can > send you one. Well.. I didn't get the test plugs.. but that's OK.. I'll nuke them myself 8*) And as of the power controller cables.. How much does it cost to send from your house (where do you live anyway?) to The Netherlands (I live near Utrecht (about the center of NL)) > > >Further more I haven't got a disk yet. I'm searching for an old apple disk > >(scsi-1) as someone told me it should work. > > This depends upon the controller cards installed in the PDP. > I'll send you a list tommorow.. > Alan > Thanks Wim Fournier Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA27545 for pups-liszt; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:02:12 +1000 (EST) From djenner at halcyon.com Tue Jun 1 22:47:30 1999 From: djenner at halcyon.com (David C. Jenner) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 05:47:30 -0700 Subject: Free to a good home... (fwd) References: <199906010555.PAA07705@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Message-ID: <3753D662.9913E45C@halcyon.com> 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders! (Or is it 152?) Wow, that's $150,000 to SCO for supporting the effort. That should probably be enough to pay all the lawyers, etc. (Even if it's only $15,000.) I hope Warren got a cut, too. :) Dave Warren Toomey wrote: > > All, > Just a message to say that the PUPS mailing list DOES exist :-) > It's just very quiet, so please feel free to wake it up. I should > send in a list of new things in the PUPS Archive. > > We now have: > 152 people subscribed to the mailing list > 100 people with access to the PUPS archive > 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders. > > Finally, John Dodson in Australia (who is not on the list), asked > me to forward this message to you all. > > Cheers, > Warren > > ----- Forwarded message from John Dodson ----- > From: John Dodson > Subject: Free to a good home... > > Free to a good home... > > Complete set of RSX11-M manuals. (Yes it ran on a PDP11 ;-) > > Complete set of Ultrix manuals. (Oh Ok so it ran on Vaxes ;-) > > One or 2 PDP-11/23's + some i/o cards (I'm not making a list, YOU must > look, decide & negotiate with me to let them go...) > A volunteer prepared to make a list would be OK. > > Contact: > > John Dodson, Dept of Physiology, (F13) > johnd at physiol.usyd.edu.au & Faculty of Medicine, > http://www.physiol.usyd.edu.au/johnd University of Sydney, > Phone +61 2 9351 3277 NSW 2006 > Fax +61 2 9351 2058 Australia. > > Bring a strong friend when you pick it up. You have a week before the docs are > trashed. The machines & cards I'll keep for a while till they find a good home. > Sorry I cannot (will not) deliver. > ----- End of forwarded message from John Dodson ----- From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Wed Jun 2 09:49:17 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:49:17 +1000 (EST) Subject: Free to a good home... (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3753D662.9913E45C@halcyon.com> from "David C. Jenner" at "Jun 1, 1999 5:47:30 am" Message-ID: <199906012353.JAA00289@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by David C. Jenner: > 1502 SCO Ancient Unix license holders! (Or is it 152?) Whups, typo :-) > Wow, that's $150,000 to SCO for supporting the effort. > That should probably be enough to pay all the lawyers, etc. > (Even if it's only $15,000.) I hope Warren got a cut, too. :) No, no cut for me, just happiness that people can use the archive. We're currently just back up from a campus-wide power failure. I knew it was coming. Every time minnie get over 100 days uptime, we have a power failure. Cheers all, Warren From ecorlis at mindspring.com Sat Jun 19 14:49:08 1999 From: ecorlis at mindspring.com (Erin Corliss) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:49:08 -0700 Subject: Unix 6 & the E11 Emulator Message-ID: <000e01beba0f$12646e00$e22079a5@moonunit.mindstream.com> How do you boot Unix 6 on an Ersatz-11 emulator? Here is the e11.ini I have: set cpu 40 mount dm0: ..\rk6.dsk assign tt1: f2 assign tt2: f3 boot dm0: The emulator currently displays the copyright, followed by a new line and an "@" symbol. At this point if you type "rkunix" or "unix" it has an exception... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au Sat Jun 19 20:11:18 1999 From: wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 20:11:18 +1000 (EST) Subject: Unix 6 & the E11 Emulator In-Reply-To: <000e01beba0f$12646e00$e22079a5@moonunit.mindstream.com> from Erin Corliss at "Jun 18, 1999 9:49: 8 pm" Message-ID: <199906191011.UAA75443@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> In article by Erin Corliss: > How do you boot Unix 6 on an Ersatz-11 emulator? > > Here is the e11.ini I have: > > set cpu 40 > mount dm0: ..\rk6.dsk > assign tt1: f2 > assign tt2: f3 > boot dm0: > > The emulator currently displays the copyright, followed by a new line and an "@" symbol. At this point if you type "rkunix" or "unix" it has an exception... For Supnik's emulator, you can do this: UNIX V6 is contained on three RK05 disk images. To boot UNIX: sim> set cpu 18b sim> att rk0 unix0_v6_rk.dsk sim> att rk1 unix1_v6_rk.dsk sim> att rk3 unix3_v6_rk.dsk sim> boot rk0 @unix login: root # ls -l However, you want the same details for Ersatz-11. I thought RK0: was the E11 device for RK05s. Or DK0? In which case you would use this device to mount the RK05 disk image. Everything else in your e11.ini file looks good to me. Unfortunately, I haven't used E11 for a while, I'm at home, and any archive e11.ini files are at work on CD-ROMs. I'll have a look when I get back to work on Monday. Hope this helps, Warren From agonza24 at cs.fiu.edu Sat Jun 26 11:34:40 1999 From: agonza24 at cs.fiu.edu (alejandro gonzalez) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Unix 6 & the E11 Emulator In-Reply-To: <000e01beba0f$12646e00$e22079a5@moonunit.mindstream.com> Message-ID: Did you ever get this to work? Because I was trying it with the E11 Emulator and it gave me an address dump when I type: "unix" in the @ prompt. ********************************* Alejandro Gonzalez HPDRC Research Assistant NASA Regional Application Center agonza24 at cs.fiu.edu ********************************* On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Erin Corliss wrote: > How do you boot Unix 6 on an Ersatz-11 emulator? > > Here is the e11.ini I have: > > set cpu 40 > mount dm0: ..\rk6.dsk > assign tt1: f2 > assign tt2: f3 > boot dm0: > > The emulator currently displays the copyright, followed by a new line and an "@" symbol. At this point if you type "rkunix" or "unix" it has an exception... >