From agrier at poofygoof.com Tue May 14 16:11:31 2013 From: agrier at poofygoof.com (Aaron J. Grier) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 23:11:31 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] curmudgeon credit In-Reply-To: References: <20130427224146.GR664@bitmover.com> <201304280534.r3S5YrSu002857@skeeve.com> Message-ID: <20130514061130.GA24375@arwen.poofy.goof.com> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 05:08:28PM +1000, Nick Downing wrote: > Well, I don't like wasted silicon obviously not speaking for my employer here, but my understanding is that you can't power up all the existing real-estate on modern silicon and still meet power envelopes. the extra silicon isn't wasted: it merely functions as a heat-sink when it's not being utilized. :) are there any synthesizable (hardware description language) versions of PDP or VAX available? seems like hybrid FPGA / SW emulation platforms would be an interesting experimentation space. -- Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier at poofygoof.com From emu at e-bbes.com Tue May 14 16:52:19 2013 From: emu at e-bbes.com (emu at e-bbes.com) Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:52:19 +0200 Subject: [TUHS] curmudgeon credit In-Reply-To: <20130514061130.GA24375@arwen.poofy.goof.com> References: <20130427224146.GR664@bitmover.com> <201304280534.r3S5YrSu002857@skeeve.com> <20130514061130.GA24375@arwen.poofy.goof.com> Message-ID: <20130514085219.gto9isoy8ck8gs4s@webmail.opentransfer.com> Quoting "Aaron J. Grier" : > are there any synthesizable (hardware description language) versions of > PDP or VAX available? seems like hybrid FPGA / SW emulation platforms > would be an interesting experimentation space. Few PDP11s (VHDL?) are out there, no VAX in the wild as far as I know ... From dfevans at sekrit.eu Tue May 14 17:51:36 2013 From: dfevans at sekrit.eu (David Evans) Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:51:36 +0100 Subject: [TUHS] curmudgeon credit In-Reply-To: <20130514085219.gto9isoy8ck8gs4s@webmail.opentransfer.com> References: <20130427224146.GR664@bitmover.com> <201304280534.r3S5YrSu002857@skeeve.com> <20130514061130.GA24375@arwen.poofy.goof.com> <20130514085219.gto9isoy8ck8gs4s@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: On 14 May 2013, at 07:52, emu at e-bbes.com wrote: > Quoting "Aaron J. Grier" : > >> are there any synthesizable (hardware description language) versions of >> PDP or VAX available? seems like hybrid FPGA / SW emulation platforms >> would be an interesting experimentation space. > > Few PDP11s (VHDL?) are out there, no VAX in the wild as far as I know … > Yes; I've run 7th Edition on http://pdp2011.sytse.net/wordpress/ Was too lazy to get 2.11BSD working and I see that it has progressed a lot in the year since I tried it. I think I played with http://opencores.org/project,w11 too but I can't remember what I did. I've spent most time with an -8 and there are a couple of -10s out there but then that's not Unix... From clemc at ccc.com Fri May 24 22:58:21 2013 From: clemc at ccc.com (Clem Cole) Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 08:58:21 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World Message-ID: I fear a sad part of this slide show is that many of us remember and were part of it all. Some of us programmed these machines (I admit that I still have some of these pieces in my basement). I was disappointed they did not show a "stinger tap." The picture of the Alto shows the first mouse – the Hawley Labs mechanical mouse (which I miss for its feel). Check out the picture of the first Cisco router using Intel Multibus (with a Motorola 68k in it) looking so awkward. http://www.eweek.com/networking/slideshows/ethernet-marks-40-years-linking-people-computers-in-a-wired-world/?kc=EWKNLEDP05242013A&dni=60148934&rni=24249067 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com Fri May 24 23:58:47 2013 From: gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com (Gregg Levine) Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 09:58:47 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] [HECnet] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Clem Cole wrote: > I fear a sad part of this slide show is that many of us remember and were > part of it all. Some of us programmed these machines (I admit that I > still have some of these pieces in my basement). I was disappointed they > did not show a "stinger tap." The picture of the Alto shows the first mouse > – the Hawley Labs mechanical mouse (which I miss for its feel). Check out > the picture of the first Cisco router using Intel Multibus (with a Motorola > 68k in it) looking so awkward. > > http://www.eweek.com/networking/slideshows/ethernet-marks-40-years-linking-people-computers-in-a-wired-world/?kc=EWKNLEDP05242013A&dni=60148934&rni=24249067 Hello! Then you did not notice the one which attempts to describe the widget attached to the yellow cable. It was a tap who used the stinger design. It was an interesting slide show, but it did not go into complete detail. Charles Spurgeon wrote an excellent book on Ethernet which as it happens to explain practically everything about the entire ideas behind it. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." From lm at bitmover.com Sat May 25 03:02:48 2013 From: lm at bitmover.com (Larry McVoy) Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:02:48 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] Ethernet Marks 40 Years Linking People, Computers in a Wired World In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130524170248.GD5767@bitmover.com> Surprised nobody linked this ask me anything by Bob Metcalfe: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1erq51/youre_probably_connecting_to_reddit_through_a/ On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 08:58:21AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > I fear a sad part of this slide show is that many of us remember and were > part of it all. Some of us programmed these machines (I admit that I > still have some of these pieces in my basement). I was disappointed they > did not show a "stinger tap." The picture of the Alto shows the first mouse > ? the Hawley Labs mechanical mouse (which I miss for its feel). Check out > the picture of the first Cisco router using Intel Multibus (with a Motorola > 68k in it) looking so awkward. > > http://www.eweek.com/networking/slideshows/ethernet-marks-40-years-linking-people-computers-in-a-wired-world/?kc=EWKNLEDP05242013A&dni=60148934&rni=24249067 > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitkeeper.com